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  1. Simp (Guest) on Chapter 3 Thu 22 Feb 2024 07:05AM UTC

    As a person who doesn’t really like both Sansa and Daenerys I think I have a less bias view of Sansa’s goal in season 6 and onward.

    Most Daenerys fans portray her as an evil manipulative bitch and vice versa. I think Sansa didn’t tell Jon about the knights of the Vale because then Jon would have had them appear in his army for Ramsey to see and if Ramsey could see the knights of the Vale he would have hid behind the walls of Winterfell and then easily have won a siege battle. Though it was ruthless what she did it was effective. But in no way do I believe she wanted to get Jon killed. Sansa loves her family and she has been without her family since Ned died.

    After being raped and tortured by Ramsey she ran to Jon because he is her brother and only hope. Dany super fans are the most ruthless fans and they hate Sansa so they make her seem like an evil bitch.

    Besides all that tho I myself am not a big Sansa fan in the show tho I feel I kinda had to defend her there. I like her in the books a lot better. Daenerys I can’t stand in the show after about season 3 and in the books I like her most of the time. Although I find her to be the biggest hypocrite of any character besides maybe Cersei but we all know Cersei is evil and she knows it which is why she’s a badass.

    Besides all that talk tho I have really enjoyed this fic so far despite not being a major fan of Jon/dany which I know is coming (I prefer Jon/Val). I like ur take on resurrection and a darker Jon. As old George Martin said returning from death should not make a character more powerful (eg Gandalf the Grey becoming Gandalf the White) but instead make them feel like something is missing (eg Beric) therefore a character dieing has more meaning because they don’t just come back better it has to have consequences. Keep up the good work 👍

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    1. GeraltRivia on Chapter 3 Thu 22 Feb 2024 08:05AM UTC

      I barely see any fiction where Dany fans portray Sansa as manipulative bitch( all the jon/sansa stories have the tag of dany being mad when in reality she would be happy for Jon since she believes her self to be barren). You say Sansa cares about family but all shes ever done from s1 is betraying her family constantly. She killed her own father just because she wanted to become joffrey wife and started the war of the five king( before some Sansa fans tell me she was very young, that's normal age in westeros).Not only she went behind Jon back to meet with Baelish after Jon gave her asylum, she didn't even have decency to tell him about the vale army. They could have made plans around vale army without having Ramsey figuring it out. "Though it was ruthless what she did it was effective. But in no way do I believe she wanted to get Jon killed. Sansa loves her family and she has been without her family since Ned died." isn't it bit ironic vale army only came after Jon was crushed by all the dead men?

      I haven't watched the show since s8, didn't she also give up on Rickon, how is that for loving her family? Then you have s8 Sansa who basically contributed nothing against Army of the dead but somehow was unappreciative of Jon bringing the biggest army in westeros to north. You say you aren't big Sansa fan but your comment tells me you are big Sansa fan hiding behind guest account.

      If GRRM ever release the last 2 book jon/dany will definitely be a couple there's already too many hints.

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      1. Simp (Guest) on Chapter 3 Thu 22 Feb 2024 10:32AM UTC

        Dude I completely agree with u about Sansa in the beginning of the series. She’s a spoilt little brat and I can’t stand her. But as she says she learns. Ivory to porcelain to steel and like Daenerys she has had to be ruthless to survive. Don’t tell me I like her when I don’t mate.

        I used to be a Jonerys fan when I first started GoT so I disliked Sansa especially in season 8 and I read all the jonerys fanfics. I read multiple fics where Sansa teams up with Baelish against Jon and Dany and she’s portrayed as a Baelish 2.0. But after watching the show multiple times and reading the books twice I now have different opinions (and I’m entitled to my own opinion) Sure I like Sansa more then I like Daenerys now but don’t tell me what characters I like mate.

        About the clues to the books ending with Jon/dany that is true there are clues but there is also clues that it could be Jon/Sansa or even Jon/Val. Did u know that George was originally going to pair Jon/Arya/Tyrion but he changed his mind. We don’t know what’s going to happen and there is multiple theories supporting multiple outcomes but nothing is set in stone.

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        1. GeraltRivia on Chapter 3 Thu 22 Feb 2024 03:41PM UTC

          I don't think Jon/Sansa will happen in the book, she's most likely going to marry Hardyng and I don't see Jon marrying Sansa ever not when it serves him nothing politically. Its hard for me to like Sansa as a character when almost every decision she made from s1 is selfish and she was just rewarded for it last episode by becoming QITN.

          Bookjon is very much a player in game of thrones and when he gets resurrected he will probably be with Val to setup for endgame pairing Jon/Dany. My favorite character is Jon but he was really weak character post resurrection, he went to Dragonstone offering nothing but expecting Daenerys to just march north without any proof. bookjon would never do that.

          Jon/Arya/Tyrion pairing was early in the concept, Arya will probably stay being Mercy.

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      3. YummyGummy on Chapter 3 Thu 22 Feb 2024 10:42AM UTC

        I’m Simp btw. This is my account. Go look at the fics I read and u can c I read both jonsa and jonerys and loads of other pairings because I love asoiaf. But I am not a Sansa lover I actually take offence to that😂

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